This is a perfect example of how many CD's I have. I was searching around and found 2 more Wyclef maxi-singles from The Carnival. Hell, might as well throw them up here.
Guantanamera
1) LP Version
2) Roxanne, Roxanne/Oye Como Ya Remix featuring Beenie Man & Kamani Marley
3) Guga Jungle Mix
4) We Trying To Stay Alive - Rock Steady Mix
I think this is an import from Canada, but I'm not sure. It's got a couple of decent Guantanamera remixes and a nice remix of We Trying To Stay Alive, which is the real reason to have this (uses the same sample from Planet Rock). I still like John Forte, even though his debut wasn't that good from what I remember, but maybe he'll put some good music out now that he's been pardoned by George W. Bush.
Cheated (To All the Girls)
1) Cheated (R&B Mix)
2) What's Clef
3) Chickenhead (Icerider Remix)
4) Cheated (Rock Mix)
5) To All the Girls (LP Version)
This maxi-single is most famous for featuring the answer to LL's diss, The Ripper Strikes Back, which I think was preceded by Canibus's Rip the Jacker, which was preceded by the 4,3,2,1 verse from LL.
From the Beef series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmW447Lhvnk
Hell, let's throw the songs up here too:
4,3,2,1:
Rip the Jacker:
The Ripper Strikes Back:
I combined the two Clef maxi's into one download here:
http://www.zshare.net/download/68664346b9e0cd45/
11/19/2009
Wyclef Jean Singles
10/15/2008
WYDU Classics Sept 08 Version 1.1: I Must Dis You Vol 2
As I said last week, we are throwing down some WYDU Classics every week in the month of October to celebrate WYDU's 3rd birthday.
WYDU Classics Oct 08: I Must Dis You Vol 2
********(You'll have to change the month, I think I have it as Sept on the File name and Aug in the files album....it's mad late)*********
Back in April, I dropped the first volume of WYDU Classics: I Must Dis You. I mentioned my love for all that is good hearted (or heated) competition.....as long as it stays within the realm of skills and not guns. This month, I drop a second volume on your unexpecting heads, as we cover the wacky, the goofy, the serious and the dope dis tracks that have dropped over the years....
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D05JRI16
http://rapidshare.com/files/153840383/WYDU_Classics_Sept_08_V.1-_I_Must_Dis_You_Vol_2.rar.html
01 Common - The Bitch In Yoo (Original Demo Version)
Any hip hopper worth his weight in gold should know about this song already. Common straight sets into Cube and his Westside Connection brethren. This version is the reputed original demo version. The beat is the same for the most part, there is a few different sounds here and there. It does come with some different lyrics except for the first verse. Not as potent as the version that would be released to the masses. In some ways, Cube never really recovered from this.
02 Bumpy Knuckles - Crazy Like A Foxxx
I'm cheating on this one a bit. It would have been better if I would have gotten my CD-R of this album, before it got re released this past summer, but oh well. Freddie goes at the Ultramagnetic MC boys for a line they dropped on "Yo Black" that went something like "“why would you put a Foxxx against an alligator”. Probably not a smart idea, whether it was on purpose or not, which is still under debate. On the track, Foxxx serves beat down pie to Moe Love, Ced Gee and Kool Keith. Rumor has it, that Freddie and Keith ended up on the same cross country flight from NYC to LA, Keith was shook, but they ended up squashing the beef while on the flight.
03 K-Solo - The Answer Back
The story goes that DMX & Solo were locked up together. They were cool while in jail, but when DMX got out and Solo claims X jacked his "Spellbound" style for a track (which I have somewhere). Needless to say, the two haven't liked each other since then. Solo sounds pissed on this and doesn't fuck around in going right after the Dark Man X. This is vicious right here....
04 King Sun - Doo Wop
This was something I picked up off of Philaflava's TROY forum. I had heard about it, but never heard it. King Sun was one dude that got major respect in NY back in the day. Standing about 6'9, dude was stacked. Apparently, he got sick of Pac and Deathrow back around '96 and let them have it. It's not all that venomous, he just tells it like it is.
05 Craig G - Ripped To Shreds
Back when the Juice Crew began to split up, Shan and Craig G got into a little spat. This short little dis track has Craig spitting the classic line, "He called me his son, but his he sure?/ I never slipped checks underneath his door", haha, classic.....
06 D To The S - Dissin' These Fools
As far as I know and remember, D 2 The S was a group outta Chi-Town, which Naughty didn't have too many good things to say about while they were involved with a little snafu with Tung Twista (see "Suicide"), and D To The S took offense adn dropped "Dissin' These Fools".
07 Cormega - Never Personal (Fuck Nas & Nature)
After Nas dicked over his homeboy by replacing him with Nature, Cormega had some choice words for his former homie. Excuse my "favorite" DJ screaming all over the track. This track was a white label back around 2000, but I didn't want to dig through my CD-R's after it. It breaks up toward the end, sorry...
08 Royce Da 5 9 - Malcolm X
A somewhat newer track (03?), but Royce was straight pissed off on this one, dropping scathing lines against the D12 boys. He had some choice words for Em, but didn't come as hard as he probably could have. You can tell this was personal. One of my favorites.
09 Eminem - Can I Bitch You can't say Em doesn't have a sense of humor, and he demonstrates it best on Can-I-Bitch, who is about...yeah, you guessed it, Canibus. He also throws a funny ass jab at JD (of So So Def fame) while he's at it. I don't remember the exact way this feud started, I think 'Bis ran his mouth about Em in an interview if I remember right. Em throw some dirt at him on "Square Dance Rap" from his third album, then delivered the death blow on this track.
10 5 Star Moet - Moet Get's Busy
We get into the cat fights, as 5 Star Moet comes at Shante. Don' know anything about 5 Star Moet, or why she went after her, other than the fact that was the chick you went after to make a name for yourself back in the day.
11 J.J. Fad - Another Hoe
The Cali girl group on Ruthless thought they might as well go after Shante as well. Sparky D was spared either as the girls from JJ Fad went after both of them. This is actually a pretty good track, as they interpolate Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".
12 Tweedy Bird Loc - I'm Calling You a Bitch
Tweedy comes back again on this volume, going after Queen Latifah. I guess he was annoyed with Latifah's "U.N.I.T.Y." track when she asks, "who you callin' a bitch?" Tweedy came out and basically said "ME!" Shit is straight up hilarious.
13 Luke - Pussy Ass Kid And Hoe Ass Play (Payback Is A Mutha Fucker)
Another gut busting track. Kid N Play made the mistake of saying in an interview on Yo! (I think, if my memory serves me right) saying they didn't like negative rap such as 2 Live Crew and Luke Skywalker. Or maybe it was first done on a track from their Face The Nation album. I can't remember. Anyway, Luke dropped this scathing comeback. It gets rather ugly.
14 J-Ro - The X-Homie
Somewhere along the way, Xzibit head got gassed (imagine that) and kind of shitted on his Alkaholik crew, or at least that's how the story goes. J-Ro, wasn't having it and dropped this track on him.
15 Kurupt - Callin' Out Names
DMX is the object of frustration again, this time as Kurupt goes after him. This all allegedly after DMX stepped to and reportedly got with his woman, who happen to goes by the name of Foxy Brown. I've always kind of dug this track, although it could have more bite.
16 DJ Pooh Feat Kam - Whoop! Whoop!
Someone having a problem with ends when it comes to Ice Cube? Naaaah, never heard that before. Kam was pissed after he insisted Street Knowledge didn't pay him right. Shit went down, after rumors of Kam snatching Cubes Westside Connection chain while they brawled in traffic (doubtful), Kam's homie snatched it at a party (more likely) then gave the chain to B-Real, who then took pictures with it. Also rumors of Cube and Lench Mob running into Kam and his boys in Chicago, which Kam briefly mentions in the song.
17 Rodney O & Joe Cooley - The Sounds of the Underground
I like Rodney O & Joe Cooley, always have, but they always came across extra bitter when they started dissing the east. I'll give them credit for doing it before it became "cool" to do so. On this track, they came after KRS One and LL Cool J. Good for a listen.
18 Pooh Man - Backstabbaz
Pooh Man had beef with the whole Dangerous Crew when he stepped. This track was basically about Too Short and Ant Banks. This song kinda sucks actually. You shouldn't have an R&B hook on a dis track, unless it's down tongue in cheek.
19 LL Cool J - Break Of Dawn Freestyle
LL live, spitting his classic dis track over the "Keep Rising To The Top" beat. Lyrically, there are some small differeneces, but it's basically the same thing.
10/14/2008
Anatomy Of A Beef......Part One: LL Cool J Vs. Kool Moe Dee
As I said last week, we throwing down some WYDU Classics every week in the month of October to celebrate WYDU's 3rd birthday. Before we do......
New Blog....
T.R.O.Y. from Philaflava
Before we jump right into it, I have to bring to attention a DOPE new blog out there. My homies from Philaflava have joined forces to bring possibly the dopest obscure, rare and classic hip hop blog since Bust The Facts. Jaz (from WYDU favorite Cold Rock Da Spot), Jason Gloss (the owner and mastermind behind Philaflava), Admiral, Roy Johnson, Blockhead (yeah, THAT Blockhead), Thun (of Oh Word fame) and some others that I haven't figured out who is all involved over there yet. Some of the material they have been dropping is a first time for showing up on the web, and if you can do that these days, then you got something. They've dropped everything from sample sources, to a B1 discography (if you don't know who B1 is, then you should head over there, take my word....if you do know who B1 was, then you know you should head over there, I don't have to tell you), to some Busy Bee material, to some Spoonie G material, with some Knucklehedz singles mixed in as well as some Now Born Click. That's just the first page, so it's a dope site that all of you that feel you don't get enough of an oldschool fix here anymore....In fact I got five tracks for the next WYDU Classic from the blog and forum.
This week, it's all about beef...all the way from rare to the well done.
Kool Moe Dee was a legend back in the day. His first single "Go See The Doctor" produced by future New Jack Swing guru, Teddy Riley
, took off. His self titled solo debut made a splash for Jive/RCA. A very solid debut album would lead into his most popular LP of his career, "How Do You Like Me Now", which would produced the hit's with the title track and "Wild Wild West". It was about this time him and LL Cool J would compete in one of the greatest battles on wax that Hip Hop has ever seen.
Instead of highlighting this myself, I believe there is someone who has more of a detailed view and a better vantage point of the whole beef, a reader sent this excellent coverage and opinion of the Kool Moe Dee Vs. LL Cool J Battle back in the day and I've posted it before, it's such a good read, we'll do it again......all credit and props for this goes to Kevin:
In regards to HipHop, as far as I'm concerned there were always two typ
es of HipHop fans:
1. Those that were just following HipHop through buying records and listening to the radio, but were too young to go to and hang out at the HipHop spots, like Latin Quarters, Rooftop, Bentley's, Roxy, Danceteria, Union Square etc....and only went to the concerts
2. Those who following HipHop though buying records and listening to the radio, and were old enough to hang out at the all the HipHop spots as well as go to the concerts.
Now here is these points have on the Kool Moe Dee vs. LL Cool J rivalry because, Moe Dee may not have been popular amongst those young record buying HipHop fans, but definitely had some support from those older HipHop fans that were hanging out in the HipHop spots especially as he was still rocking at those spots, which in turn has an effect on your outlook on how the battle came about as well as it's outcome and the full insight in regards to their rivalry
SO HAVE A CUP OF TEA AND SOME BISCUITS IN HAND, AND SOME A CIGAR IF YOU SMOKE WHILE READING THIS
When Moe Dee and the HIPHOP CATS were pushing and anticipating for a live battle between these 2, LL KEPT DUCKING AND RUNNING FROM Moe Dee.......and there are incidents to prove it
Now lets, review the Moe Dee vs. LL battle more carefully shall we.........Now readers, make sure you've got a cup of tea and biscuits in your hand for the following info. Now here info about incidents that happen OUTSIDE their battle records that were made, which related to their beef:
Just so you know, the beef between LL and Moe Dee had been brewing for a period of time, since the mid-80's. Moe Dee always suspecting that, LL was letting fame get to his head with a cocky attitude as if those that came before didn't matter (that's what Moe Dee and others had beef with Run)
Especially with LL spitting lines like "greatest rapper in the history of rap itself" etc, then with Moe Dee feeling like LL took his style, and at the same time abruptly brushing off rappers that came before him, was definitely adding logs on the fire of their beef
But here was one incident, which was the straw that broke the camels back for Moe Dee in their beef:
One show night in Boston, LL missed his plane and the show's promoter asked if Rakim and Moe Dee could just go up onstage and rhyme for a while and hold the crowd over with some impromptu freestyle. They agreed, and within 15 minutes along with Grandmaster Dee cutting, Rakim, Jalil, Extacy, Mike C and Kool Moe Dee absolutely wrecking the crowd. Once word got to them that LL was in the house and ready to rock the stage they finally shut it down. Just seconds after the MC's shut it down, whilst still on stage and LL took the stage walked over to a speaker and stood over all the MC's that just saved the show, and began to explain to the crowd why he got on last, and why his name is the biggest name on the marquee. He ranted on in an extreme condescending manner about how his sales showed how he's a bigger star than those MC's that were on the stage and how he's the bigger & better MC than the rest of them
Now it’s known about the order of their records between 1987-1989; How You Like Me Now, Jack The Ripper, Let's Go, and once these records were out, cats where just anticipating the moment when these two will nail their battle in the coffin and would just get on stage.......and as these two had a habit of meeting each other on stage that moment was so close you could taste and touch it.
So let’s list some of the incidents of their meetings which sparked the fire of their battle when it was on from 1987-1989:
One night at the Apollo, LL was there, and he performed Jack The Ripper....people thought Moe Dee wasn't there, so LL acted and fronted like he was calling him out, and like if Moe was there then he would bring it to Moe...but while LL was performing, and face emerges from the crowd, a spot light is on that person, it turns out to be Kool Moe Dee, the crowd was like "OH SHIT THERE GONNA GET ON NOW" AND GOES NUTS....as Moe starts making his way to the stage, LL got nervous, and just rapped up his show, and quickly stormed of the stage.......once Moe got on the stage, LL was gone but the chanting MOE Dee's name from the time he made his way to the stage and even when he was still on stage
Another incident at the Apollo, what happened was the Dj played LL's jack the ripper, and LL was expected to come out, Kool Moe Dee came out instead and snatched the record of the decks, the crowd went wild, and the DJ played an instrumental, and Kool Moe Dee just ripped LL a new asshole in a freestyle, and told the crowd LL's day was coming, and people in the crowd were saying the same thing as well as saying I HOPE LL COMES OUT whilst in the frenzy Moe Dee just put them in.... There battle created so much buzz and a live battle was so anticipated that Arsenio Hall, even offered to let these host and put on their live battle on his show, but LL brushed it off by saying that he'd rather settle it in a boxing ring
But here is one of the final incident, which was the nail in the coffin of their beef in 80's.....this incident took place in late 88 or early 89 in Texas. Moe Dee was doing a show in .....LL shows up during his show and starts blowing kisses to the crowd....Moe Dee tries to step to him for a battle, but LL escapes into the crowd...but Moe Dee spots LL in the crowd and puts the spotlight on him challenging LL to a live battle, but LL refuses again....so Moe does a freestyle dissing LL even dropping the verbal "LL's" on him gets the crowd to BOO LL outta the arena. Moe Dee acknowledged to the crowd the battle was done and dropped/slammed the mic down. Now of course all of these incidents were before 1990-1991 where there were further answer records to their 80’s records; To The Break Of Dawn and Death Blow.
(trav's note: the audio he sent me gave me chills up & down my spine)
