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Showing posts with label Ice T. Show all posts
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4/01/2010

Trav's Forgotten Gems: Rhyme Syndicate - Comin' Through


Before there was the Wu, there was the Rhyme Syndicate. Around 1987 or so, Ice-T got a group of artists together, in an attempt to bring unity among the masses (among other reasons, I'm sure). And not only was it west coast artists, the east was represented as well, which was only natural since Ice spent a lot of time back east and cats such as Donald D, Afrika Islam, Bronx Style Bob were all originally from the east coast. Artists such as WC (as part of Low Profile), Everlast (in his dapper threads before he became the Irish hooligan in HOP), and Lord Finesse got their "start" as part of the Rhyme Syndicate.

In 1988, around the time that Ice-T was starting get his name out there, he decided to release a Rhyme Syndicate project. It consisted of some of Ice's known cohorts, such as Donald D and Evil Dee and Henry G. It would also be the first (and maybe last) for a slew of new talent, such as Bango, Nat The Cat, and T.D.F.

Myself, I was a big Ice-T fan by this time after picking up a Rhyme Pays bootleg tape at the state fair the year previously. I was even part of the "Rhyme Syndicate Fan Club", which I had to send away to be apart of. I think you sent them cash, then they sent you a black baseball hat with a white SYNDICATE (or maybe it was SYNDICATION, I can't remember) and a pair of cheap rip off "Locs", which were totally uncomfortable to wear. Both the hat and glasses rested a Mickey Mouse piggy bank I had.

Anyway, I remember my neighbor when I was a kid and myself took off to the local record store one Sunday afternoon. It was this neighbor that was responsible for my introduction to hip hop (something he'll deny today, since he is a God fearing, conservative republican, FBI agent), and he was old enough to drive, so we'd go hit up the "tape stores" as we used to call them. It was this Sunday that we found this unexpected gem. I want to say it was after Yo! MTV Raps had started running full time, but this was completely unheard of by this time. I had heard some of the names found on the tape, since I was an avid reader of liner notes. I had heard of Donald D, Toddy Tee, and Bronxstyle Bob. I knew what the Rhyme Syndicate was as well, but I never knew this compilation existed. Since my buddy was a cheapskate back then, I would buy most things, and he would dub them, so I quickly grabbed this unheard of jewel, paid for it and out the door we went. We played the tape while we drove around and we thought it was the best shit we had ever heard.

Looking back on it now, it's not the greatest album of all-time, but I still break it out form time to time and give it some spins. As I stated already, a lot of these artists never really saw much time past this project. Maybe a 12 inch here, a guest appearance on an Ice-T album there, but besides Everlast, Donald D, Toddy Tee, and Low Profile which was W.C., DJ Aladdin (minus the third member who was only found on this song and I can't even remember his name), the rest didn't do much. For the longest time, before the internet, I never heard much about the Rhyme Syndicate project. I was actually convinced for the longest time that I had something pretty rare on my hands. I realize now that it's not all that hard to find, although the CD version, which I have never seen, goes for a large sum on Amazon.com, but you can get the vinyl on discogs.com for a reasonable price. Myself, I still own the original tape that I bought some 20 plus years ago.

Rhyme Syndicate Comin' Through...

01 Ice-T - Rhyme Syndicate Comin' Through 2:45
02 Low Profile - Think You Can Hang? 5:48
03 Spin Masters, The - Bustin' Loose 4:38
04 Everlast - Syndication 3:39
05 Domination - You Haven't Heard Nothing 4:39
06 T.D.F. - T.D.F. Connection 4:05
07 Bango & Mixmaster Quick - Ghettoish 4:45
08 Toddy Tee - I Need A Rolex 3:48
09 Nat The Cat - While You've Been Waiting 4:38
10 Donald D - Name Of The Game 5:02

The music isn't even close to your run of the mill west coast gangster tales that would soon become the norm only a few short years later. I can't recall anyone getting shot the fuck up, no drugs being dealt, and not one drive by. Instead, it's all straight up braggadocios rhymes with some talk of Rolexes thrown in here and there for good measure.

As I mentioned, none of the joints could be considered a "classic". I did have my favorites though. Bango (the B-boy Outlaw) out of Cleveland, which at the time was unheard of, dropped a cut that really set things off in my little '82 Jetta I had in the days. Listening to him now, I forget that this was in '88, as he quite at home behind the mic and showed more complexity than a lot of emcees at the time. The production was done by Bango himself and Daddy-O of Stetsasonic fame gets credit for it as well. I'm not sure of the story behind his involvement in the beat, but if I remember right, Bango was in one (or more) of The New Music Seminar and lost a questionable decision to Grandmaster Caz. I'm guessing the Daddy-O tie lies somewhere in there, but I'm only guessing.


Everlast's "Syndication" was a good year or two before he would drop his Rhyme Syndicate/WB solo debut, so this was his debut on wax as far as I know. I loved this song back in the day, the funky guitar sample that was produced by Bilal Bashir (a slept on producer in his own damn right) always got my blood going. The version found on this is slightly different than the one that would appear a couple years later on his solo album. As an emcee, I guess he leaves something to be desired, but as a snotty nosed 9th grader, I saw nothing wrong with him. It's still a song that will be among my personal classics

My favorite cut from the album though, lies in Nat The Cat's "While You've Been Waiting". Nat's been up there with Joe Sinistr and Celo as cats that dropped one song only to disappear forever. Yes true, Nat the Cat does show up on some Ice-T albums (OG and Iceberg), but as far as I know, he never released anther solo song, which is a shame. The drums on this track are on some crazy, uber hard, smack-a-bum upside the head with a garbage can type of shit. The horn sample blares out the coming of Nat the Cat. All this and Nat has a unique sound and style on the microphone, one that caused me to still the know the words to this cut some twenty plus years later.

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8/18/2008

This Or That......Ice-T, Week Three: Power Vs. O.G. Original Gangster


Last Week

Only thing uglier than last weeks voting is seeing your grandma naked first thing in the morning. In other words, it wasn't a pretty sight. Ice-T breaks the myth that first albums are always the best, as his fourth album, OG Original Gangster, easily took it to his debut album, Rhyme Pays. It comes to no surprise really, as everyone kept mentioning the fact that OG was Ice's best album, something which I've come to agree with.

Final Result: OG - Alot Rhyme Pays - Not many

This Week

So we have the two winners from the past two weeks. I think it's pretty obvious that in terms of quality, both Power and OG are Ice T's best work. I've already dissected each album and told my personal anecdotes concerning both albums, so all there really is to do is to let the two albums battle it out.

Power Vs. O.G. Original Gangster

Power

Positives

- Power might just be Ice-T's most focused album. Coming in with 10 solid tracks (minus the intro and outro and the spoken word type song "Soul On Ice"), every track can stand on it's own. There is no fast forwarding material to be found on the album. This tape will forever been retired in my rap tapes as all the lettering was erased from the tape. I had to put a white out mark on Side A to be sure which side was which.

- Tracks like "Drama" highlight why Ice was one of the best story tellers in the game not named Slick Rick. Sure, his story telling skills are showcased on everyone of his albums, but I always thought the story telling joints found on Power were some of his best:

Cruisin' for a bruisin', I'm talkin' no crap
Pipe bomb in my trunk, got a nine in my lap
I'm layin' for a sprayin', tonight there's no playin'
My posse's most strapped, tonight the crew's weighin'
Dust is burnin', the steering wheel's turnin'
I'm out a week, I'm already earnin'
Suckers crossed, tonight it's their loss
Payback time, boy, life's the cost
Gauges out the window, one lay cross the roof
They all die if those suckers ain't bullet proof
I'm rollin' death tollin', of course the car's stolen
But I'm blind to what's wrong, all I want is what's golden
A fool in a fight, too dumb to know right
Fuckin' blue light-read'em their rights
Drama

You feel like you are riding shotgun with Ice as you roll through the night looking for the punk sucka ducks that took your boy's life. That was one of Ice's strengths, he put you right there with him.

- "High Rollers" and "I'm Your Pusher" are both classic singles from the Drama LP. The video for "High Rollers" was a favorite on "Yo! MTV Raps", which showed the high life being lived by Ice's character in the video. The ending shows the fast life catching up with Ice

The message found on "High Rollers" is one that still needs to be spoken on today. That was the beauty about Ice's music, he had the gangster tales, but he also had the other side of the story which wasn't covered by a lot of the other gangster rappers out there.

Then of course, you have the infamous "I'm Your Pusher", which employs an infectious Curtis Mayfield groove. As Ice once again tackles social ills in a somewhat humorous way, the listener is at the mercy of the groove as Ice plays a dealer slangin' rap tapes instead of drugs. Then of course, the infamous LL Cool J jab that started the LL/Ice T beef, which was good for some entertainment.



-As mentioned before, Ice used familiar breaks and grooves, which at the time added an extra familiarity and comfortable level to the album. You couldn't get away with this today, but back then, he would be one of the first to use a lot of the samples, which anyone who was into funk and soul would immediately recognize.

Negatives

-I've never been one to care about the length of an album, but others do. As mentioned, the album is really only 10 tracks long, which can lead people to bitch about.

-If you weren't into the west coast sound at the time, I doubt this album would do much for you. As we all know, heads from the east coast weren't always the most open to the west coast sounds in the day.

-The album hasn't aged well, with all the familiar samples dotting it's soundscape. A lot of these samples have been used ad nauseum since the album came out.




O.G. Original Gangster

Postives:

- Quite possibly Ice's most complete work to date. It's also his longest album. Sometimes longer is better when it comes to hip hop albums. Ice tackles all sorts of topics and situations on the album. Sure there are some interlude type things and some short little skits, but even those add to the whole package. Tracks like "Ed", "Ziplock", or even "Home of the Body Bag" add texture and a fullness to the album that comes off like a complete package.

- Ice probably adapted his sound better on this album than he had with his other tracks. Let's face it, you never really listened to an Ice-T album for it's production values. A lot of times, Ice was lagging behind the times when it came to his production. This album though was as hard as the hardest gangster rap album out there at the time.

- If you were down with Ice's heavy metal flavor, then you had to enjoy the track "Body Count". Being a white kid in a white area, I grew up around all kinds of kids that were into the metal scene, so while it wasn't my thing, I did appreciate it. I did like the track, as it's message was one that was "about" me, but it was just one of the many tracks that would open my mind to a larger world out there. I'm sure I'm not the only lily white kid that had that happen to them.

- Of course the classic track, "New Jack Hustler", is found on this album. Back in the day, I still made "Best of..." tapes at the end of each year and I seem to recall the track being in the top 3 of '91. The video was also a big on "Yo! MTV Raps" back in the day.




- There are so many great songs found on the LP, it's hard to pick one. The albums title track was a track that had a video found on Yo! as well, and one that I played a ton of times. "The Tower" was another track, although buried toward the end of a 24 track album, it would also get consideration for my favorites.

- Ice's gangster stories didn't end on OG neither. "Midnight" might be his best of the series of tracks that found their way on everyone of his albums up to that point. The Led Zeppelin drums served as a hard backdrop over an eerie electric guitar. Once again, you are transfered into the dark streets of L.A. as Ice and his boys try to get through the night:

We boned down Vernon
Right on Normandie
Left on Florence

Gettin' thru the E.T.G.'s
Spun out on Vermont

Made a left on Colden

Right on Hoover
E where we goin'?

He didn'T even answer that
Checked the reaar view

They were still out back

Where were these brothers from?

What made these brothers come

Bang! our back window
Was removed by a shotgun
Now Hen G was shot Don caught a ricochet
These motherfuckers was ill

They didn't come to play

Bust a right turn, parked
and then we got left
Hid in the the bushes
Shot the gas tank to fake death

But would this really Keep them psyched?
Three of us bleedin'
It was ten past midnight!

Negatives:

- While I'm searching for negatives, the only one I can really bring up is maybe trimming a couple tracks off of the album, namely "Pulse of the Rhyme", which I always skipped.

The Final Verdict

I can see this easily going to way of the first two weeks, with OG delivering a knock out blow. Or it could be rather close. I guess what I'm saying, is I'm not completely sure how it's going to end up. Both albums, as mentioned already, contain his best work. Power is a short and focused album, containing classic tracks such as "High Rollers", "Drama", and the title track. On the other hand, you have a more diverse Ice T on OG Original Gangsters, that covers more ground and has a broader spectrum of music. Both are very good albums, yet, I think we'll see OG prevail.

Predicted Winner: OG Original Gangster

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8/11/2008

This Or That......Ice-T Week Two: Rhyme Pays Vs. O.G. Original Gangster

Last Week:

We had a slaughter in the voting last week. Ice T's third album was decimated unceremoniously by voters and although the final count isn't going to be tallied for a few more hours, it could be the largest margin we've seen on a "This Or That" post. I figured Power would win, but I didn't think it'd be that big of a margin.

Winner: Power

This Week:

After reading last weeks comments, I'm not even sure I should run this week's match up. Many of you said that Ice T's O.G. Original Gangster was Ice's best album. That lends me to believe this week might not be a good one for Ice's debut album, Rhyme Pays. My introduction to Ice-T was like many others that were outside the New York and Los Angles areas, though his "Colors" track on the soundtrack of the Colors motion picture. I was immediately enamored by the track, which I would still say ranks up there with other classics. Due to the strength of that track, I would pick up his Rhyme Pays tape in the B.Y.M.R. (Before Yo! MTV Raps) time period. The way I would come across the tape was kind of humorous actually. If you are from a backwoods area such as myself, you know the significance of the State Fair has on the area. You had food, rides, and people from other parts of the state and all kinds of things being sold. This one particular year (I want to say it was '87), there was some dude selling tapes. All kinds of tapes, and for cheap. I think I paid five bucks for Ice T's Rhyme Pays album. I took it home and I noticed the front cover looked weird. It was all faded and kind of smudged. When I went to read the liner notes, there was none. The printing on the tape was already smudged. I didn't realize it at the time, but the shit was a swap meet special, a bootleg. Soon, "6 n' The Morning", was one of my favorite songs and other tracks such as "Squeeze The Trigger", "Somebody Gotta Do It" and the title track would become staples of my hip hop listening habits. It was the start of four great albums from Ice.

All this leads us to what some consider his last "great" album (I know some people out there like Home Invasion as well), O.G. Original Gangster. In some ways, O.G. is the accumulation of everything that ever worked on an Ice-T album. The album is well rounded with sex, gangsters and political statements. Everything that made Ice a staple in west coast hip hop music. I honestly can't remember how and when I picked this up. I'm sure I got it the day it got released because I was pretty heavy into Ice T when it dropped, but I guess to many brain cells have been killed over the years and my memory isn't what it once was. The album is, as some called it last week, a classic.

I think we all know how this match up is going to end up, but we'll play along for the sake of the tournament. I offer:

Rhyme Pays Vs. O.G. Original Gangster

RHYME PAYS

positives-

- Rhyme Pays is one of the first west coast LP's with gangster related topics found on it. It's signature track of course is "6 'n The Morning", which Ice willingly admits was significantly inspired by Schoolly D's "P.S.K.". The album helped put gangster rap on the SoCal map.

- While Ice wasn't known for being the "flyest" rhymer ever to grace the mic, he could always make an album interesting lyrically, and this album is a prime example of that. The story telling on "6 'n The Morning" introduces Ice's ability to tell a story to the world. It's something that he would be known for all through his career:

Seen my homeboys coolin' way out told 'em bout my mornin'
Cold bugged' em out shot allmenn little dice until my knees got sore
Kicked around some stories bout the night before

Possed to the corner where the fly girls chill

Through action at some freaks until one bitch got ill
She started actin' stupid simply would not quit
Called us all punk pussies said we all weren't shit
As we walked over to here hoe continued to speak

So we beat the bitch down in the god damn street
But just livin' in the city a serious task
Bitch didn't know what hit her didn't have time to ask


- Musically, the album was a bridge of sorts between the electro sound and a more modern sound found on the west later on. A lot of Ice's earlier tracks encorporated that early west coast sound, such as "Dog'n The Wax" and "The Coldest Rap". Other tracks such as "Make It Funky" borrowed heavily from the east coast sound, something Ice was heavily influenced early in his career. But the album did have it's own "sound" that at the time was probably underrated.

Negatives -

- Sadly, Rhyme Pays is one of those albums that hasn't aged well. For reasons that I mentioned as positives, I also consider a negative detail as well.

- I've always considered the album some what unfocused. I've never heard the officially story behind it, but the album seemed somewhat rushed. It was fairly short. The OG tape release was only nine songs long. The CD contains some "bonus" stuff to beef up the length, but nothing major.

O.G. Original Gangster

Postives:

- Quite possibly Ice's most complete work to date. It's also his longest album. Sometimes longer is better when it comes to hip hop albums. Ice tackles all sorts of topics and situations on the album. Sure there are some interlude type things and some short little skits, but even those add to the whole package. Tracks like "Ed", "Ziplock", or even "Home of the Body Bag" add texture and a fullness to the album that comes off like a complete package.

- Ice probably adapted his sound better on this album than he had with his other tracks. Let's face it, you never really listened to an Ice-T album for it's production values. A lot of times, Ice was lagging behind the times when it came to his production. This album though was as hard as the hardest gangster rap album out there at the time.

- If you were down with Ice's heavy metal flavor, then you had to enjoy the track "Body Count". Being a white kid in a white area, I grew up around all kinds of kids that were into the metal scene, so while it wasn't my thing, I did appreciate it. I did like the track, as it's message was one that was "about" me, but it was just one of the many tracks that would open my mind to a larger world out there. I'm sure I'm not the only lily white kid that had that happen to them.

- Of course the classic track, "New Jack Hustler", is found on this album. Back in the day, I still made "Best of..." tapes at the end of each year and I seem to recall the track being in the top 3 of '91. The video was also a big on "Yo! MTV Raps" back in the day.



- There are so many great songs found on the LP, it's hard to pick one. The albums title track was a track that had a video found on Yo! as well, and one that I played a ton of times. "The Tower" was another track, although buried toward the end of a 24 track album, it would also get consideration for my favorites.

- Ice's gangster stories didn't end on OG neither. "Midnight" might be his best of the series of tracks that found their way on everyone of his albums up to that point. The Led Zeppelin drums served as a hard backdrop over an eerie electric guitar. Once again, you are transfered into the dark streets of L.A. as Ice and his boys try to get through the night:

We boned down Vernon Right on Normandie Left on Florence Gettin' thru the E.T.G.'s Spun out on Vermont Made a left on Colden Right on Hoover E where we goin'? He didn'T even answer that Checked the reaar view They were still out back Where were these brothers from? What made these brothers come Bang! our back window Was removed by a shotgun Now Hen G was shot Don caught a ricochet These motherfuckers was ill They didn't come to play Bust a right turn, parked and then we got left Hid in the the bushes Shot the gas tank to fake death But would this really Keep them psyched? Three of us bleedin' It was ten past midnight!

Negatives:

- While I'm searching for negatives, the only one I can really bring up is maybe trimming a couple tracks off of the album, namely "Pulse of the Rhyme", which I always skipped.

Verdict:

As I mentioned earlier, we are just pitting these two albums together just to go through the motions. It's obvious which one will win. While listening to O.G. some more, I realized just how great the album is. Not that hadn't realized that before, but this really should be one of the top 50 hip hop albums there has ever been. It's obvious when I set this tournament up, I saw Power as the superior album, but yeah, my minds been changed. Rhyme Pays is a good start for the Iceberg, but it's no match for O.G.

Winner: O.G. Original Gangster

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8/04/2008

This Or That.....The Ice T Tourney (Wk One): Power Vs. The Iceberg/Freedom of Speech

Last Week:

Ahhh, I love the internet. There was some banter being had this past week as jovial barbs were being tossed about like Dan Marino and the '83 Dolphins. My man Omen did a good job and getting the mob riled up by shredding apart Follow The Leader, which I'm sure was more to see how well he could press everyones buttons than actually tearing down the duo's second album. And riled up the villagers he did, I think we even had a couple death threats mixed in. All violence aside, that's what I was kinda hoping to get when I started this crazy little series earlier this summer. Hip-Hop is open to debate. While we all agree that both albums are great albums, but you start asking opinions on great albums and asking which is better, there is bound to be some disagreements and colorful opinions being had. It's a great thing. I feel like the ring leader. Or our own version of Fight Club or something.

The final numbers aren't done yet. I'm starting this post earlier than usual on a Sunday since I have to be in at work two hours early for "overtime" Monday morning, so I don't plan on my usual working on this post until Midnight on Sunday night. At 5pm MST, a 113 votes are in, with Paid In Full beating out Follow The Leader 63-45 with five votes going to "other".

This Week:

We are back on the west coast as we set forth into another "This or That" in the tournament format. For the next three weeks, we'll be examining a somewhat forgotten west coast legend in Ice-T. Obviously Ice-T gets his props, but in the grand scheme of things, I don't hear his name in the same level as the Ruthless & Death Row camps when talk of west coast legends are concerned. Which is a shame, because Ice was a predecessor for all west coast gangster music. He was the one everyone should thank for kicking the west coast music scene off with a bang. When I first mapped out artists and albums I wanted to cover for "This or That", Ice-T was on my short list, but I couldn't decide which of his first four albums should be included. The truth is, I've claimed all of his first four releases as my favorite Ice-T album at one time or another. Rhyme Pays is obviously a west coast classic that is truly the starting point for the west coast lifestyle to be put on wax. Ice's second album, "Power" contains several hit songs for the L.A. Player, and got a lot of love on "Yo! MTV Raps" back in the day. His third album, The Iceberg/Freedom of Speech...would be an album that I loved at the time and one that I considered my favorite Ice-T album for a considerable amount of time. His fourth album, O.G.Original Gangster was probably his most diverse and well rounded album. I had good reasons for all four albums to be in a match up, so in the end I said, "Why not include all four and let the people decide." Okay, I didn't actually say that, but I thought. Therefore, the next three weeks, we'll be talking about Ice-T and his political charged and gangster/pimp influenced music. I kind of seeded the pairings, with Power being the album I think will win, followed by O.G., then Rhyme Pays, with Iceberg bringing up the rear. This week, we'll pit Power and Iceberg against each other as we celebrate the mans catalog....

Power Vs. The Iceberg/Freedom Of Speech...Just Watch What You Say

Power

Positives

- Power might just be Ice-T's most focused album. Coming in with 10 solid tracks (minus the intro and outro and the spoken word type song "Soul On Ice"), every track can stand on it's own. There is no fast forwarding material to be found on the album. This tape will forever been retired in my rap tapes as all the lettering was erased from the tape. I had to put a white out mark on Side A to be sure which side was which.

- Tracks like "Drama" highlight why Ice was one of the best story tellers in the game not named Slick Rick. Sure, his story telling skills are showcased on everyone of his albums, but I always thought the story telling joints found on Power were some of his best:

Cruisin' for a bruisin', I'm talkin' no crap
Pipe bomb in my trunk, got a nine in my lap
I'm layin' for a sprayin', tonight there's no playin'
My posse's most strapped, tonight the crew's weighin'
Dust is burnin', the steering wheel's turnin'
I'm out a week, I'm already earnin'
Suckers crossed, tonight it's their loss
Payback time, boy, life's the cost
Gauges out the window, one lay cross the roof
They all die if those suckers ain't bullet proof
I'm rollin' death tollin', of course the car's stolen
But I'm blind to what's wrong, all I want is what's golden
A fool in a fight, too dumb to know right
Fuckin' blue light-read'em their rights
Drama

You feel like you are riding shotgun with Ice as you roll through the night looking for the punk sucka ducks that took your boy's life. That was one of Ice's strengths, he put you right there with him.

- "High Rollers" and "I'm Your Pusher" are both classic singles from the Drama LP. The video for "High Rollers" was a favorite on "Yo! MTV Raps", which showed the high life being lived by Ice's character in the video. The ending shows the fast life catching up with Ice



The message found on "High Rollers" is one that still needs to be spoken on today. That was the beauty about Ice's music, he had the gangster tales, but he also had the other side of the story which wasn't covered by a lot of the other gangster rappers out there.

Then of course, you have the infamous "I'm Your Pusher", which employs an infectious Curtis Mayfield groove. As Ice once again tackles social ills in a somewhat humorous way, the listener is at the mercy of the groove as Ice plays a dealer slangin' rap tapes instead of drugs. Then of course, the infamous LL Cool J jab that started the LL/Ice T beef, which was good for some entertainment.



-As mentioned before, Ice used familiar breaks and grooves, which at the time added an extra familiarity and comfortable level to the album. You couldn't get away with this today, but back then, he would be one of the first to use a lot of the samples, which anyone who was into funk and soul would immediately recognize.

Negatives

-I've never been one to care about the length of an album, but others do. As mentioned, the album is really only 10 tracks long, which can lead people to bitch about.

-If you weren't into the west coast sound at the time, I doubt this album would do much for you. As we all know, heads from the east coast weren't always the most open to the west coast sounds in the day.

-The album hasn't aged well, with all the familiar samples dotting it's soundscape. A lot of these samples have been used ad nauseum since the album came out.

The Iceberg/Freedom Of Speech...Just Watch What You Say

Positives

-This was Ice's attack on a lot of social ills found in the society at the time, namely the 1st amendment attack that was going on at the time. During the late 80's, you had parent groups such as the PMRC, which was lead by Tipper Gore, challenging profanity and hip hop records in general. It was the time of Parental Advisory stickers on album, which was what we kids would look for in 1989 when this album dropped. The Iceberg contains one of the more entertaining intros found on a hip hop album, with "Shut Up, Be Happy". Jello Biafra of the punk group The Dead Kennedys, did an excellent job at setting the mood as plays the evil government, demanding people to be happy since Big Brother is doing everything for us. Then of course there is the jam I'd blast out my little Jetta back in the day, "Freedom Of Speech." I hated Tipper Gore and I didn't even really know who she was. Ice fights for the right to say what he wants, even though he was starting to get harassed by local governments at some of the shows he was starting to do. And remind you, this was before the Cop Killer incident. If Ice only knew what was laying in wait for him at that time.....

-The positivity found on "Lethal Weapon". Not many so-called "gangster" rappers promoted using your mind to overcome your problems and to use as your advantage. I've long been an advocate that gangster rap is entertainment, but if you really want to make a contribution to the problems of society, then offer a solution. Ice was always good about offering more than one side of the story and "Lethal Weapon" might be the best example of that:



-Ice covered all the bases on the release as he did a little something for everyone. There was the gangster tales once again with the track "Peel Their Caps Back", he had the sex rhymes on both "The Iceberg" and "Freedom of Speech". He covered the political vibe on the aforementioned songs. He had the positive vibes on the "Lethal Weapon" track, he had "The Hunted Child" that made you think of the consequences for being a gangster. It was well rounded.

-It has nothing to do with the music found on the LP, but I've always loved the album cover, it's one of my favorites of all-time.

-I was always a big fan of The Syndicate artists. A lot of them were nothing more than second class hack rhymers, but for some reason, I always was willing to listen to more of them. The posse cut "What Ya Wanna Do" had two verses from a lot of the Syndicate rhyme members, including my personal favorite, Nat the Cat. It won't go down as one of the greatest posse cuts of all-time, but it'll always be on my playlists. And hey, there is always the Everlast cameo that we can laugh at....

Negatives

-As I previously mentioned, for the longest time The Iceberg was my favorite Ice T album. While I think it contains some dope tracks, I don't think it's best measures up with those found on some of his other cuts. "Lethal Weapon" is the closest jam to measure up with the "6 In The Mornings", the "New Jack Hustlers", and the "High Rollers" that Ice had in his catalogs.

-The diversity gives the album a slightly "jumbled feeling", I know that is some peoples knock on the album, which is understandable.

-In a time that saw sounds changing almost monthly, Ice stayed with his formula, which obviously worked for him and his fans, but with all of his first three albums sounding basically alike production wise, some people tend to knock that.

The Final Verdict

As I mentioned at the start of this wacked out thing. I chose all four albums to cover because it was that difficult for me to pick a clear cut winner. That goes with these two albums as well. I honestly expect Power to come out of this whole thing as the winner, but I've been surprised before (the De La tournament was full of them, although my preconceived winners still won out). When it all comes down to it, Ice-T's first four albums are all worthy enough to be mentioned with any hip hop album in the history of the genre, but Ice didn't really change it up until O.G., which we'll cover next week.

With all that being said, I still say that Power is Ice's most focused piece of work, even if it does only come in at ten true songs. I personally would rather have 10 dope songs than an album with 10 out of 18 dope songs. Power contains classic tracks, but even the ones that didn't make it out there as singles are still top quality for sure. It's truly one of those classic albums that should be mentioned up there with everything else that dropped in 1988.

As much as I like The Iceberg, when it comes down to it, it's really only an extension of Power, but with a little more variety of sorts, which does make the albums cohesiveness waiver a little bit. Ice doesn't change it up enough to make me come out and say it's a better album over Power, when essentially, it's the same album. Nothing wrong with that, but have to go with the original in this case.

Winner: Power

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4/10/2007

No Sunday Lite = Tuesday Lite


Yeah, yeah, yeah, I haven't posted in almost a week and then you get a weak ass, half assed post with only a few tracks. First off, my boys took care of shit over the weekend, and they get my thanks for that. I hate leaving this thing update for longer than a couple days. So no can complain about the lack of updates, plus I wasn't organized to start a full fledged post. I'm also going to be coming strong in the near future. I have a couple big projects on the horizon, one which I think will be bigger and better than the Nas series, that I hope to finish up this week. I'm also still first interview in the books. So you might have to sit through some more trying to get WYDU'squantity over quality type posts (meaning just chucking something up here to have a post), but I hope to be making up for it all in the very near future. So sit tight, crack open a brew or two and take a journey on my fucked up mind state and bizarre tastes in Kwame, the first Hammer album and anything related to Redhead Kingpin.

Since Brian got us on the west coast tip, I figured I'd drop a few more west coast jams, mainly from my man, King Capital T. These are just a handful (if you have three fingers) of King Tee tracks that didn't appear on an album. I'm not going to get to carried away with write ups, because I don't have much time, but I'll give you guys the scoop.

King Tee - Bass (Original Version)
At one time, this was one of my holy grails. When I finally got a hold of it, I was actually kind of disappointed. Not that it's bad, it just doesn't differ much the remix version, which in this case is the album version. It throws some different sampled clips and incorporates a call and response episode toward the end of the track. Other than that it still uses the same Zapp bassline sample and more or less the same lyrics. It doesn't seem to pack the same punch as the remix does, but maybe that's why they remixed it?

King Tee - Can This Be Real
This was the B-side the the "Act A Fool" single produced by the one and only DJ Pooh. I loved the "Act A Fool" joint, so I never paid much attention to this joint, but looking back at it, shits pretty nice though. If you liked stronger songs on the "Act A Fool" LP, you should like this.

King Tee - Cali Expert
I honestly don't know much about this one other than it appeared on a EP called "Organized Rhyme Vol 2" which contained a track from AZ and OC as well that dropped in '99. Other than that, I don't know about the history of it. But hey, it's some King Tee for all of those down with some non album cuts.

Who said east and the west never got along? Primo does remixes for two prominent west coast MC's...

Yeah, the east did generally sleep on the west, but Primo always was bi-coastal for the most part as these two cuts from a couple of the west's finest examplify.

Ice T - Lifestyles of the Rich and Infamous (Primo Remix)

Compton's Most Wanted - Def Wish II (feat. Gangstarr) (Primo Remix)

Last but not least, someone requested these to be re-upped, oh, probably 6 months ago. I can't remembered if I do or not, but here they are again in case anyone missed them. They are demo's from D-Nice which are nice little pieces of history, so jump on them. Told you I wasn't going to write much on this shit.

D-Nice - Call Me D-Nice (demo version)
D-Nice - The TR808 Is Coming

Time constraints won't allow me to do the other good stuff usually associated with a Sunday lite post, such as top spins and "why" and all that junk...instead, I'll actually leave you off with an album.

Tony D - Pound For Pound (Grand Central Records, 1997)

1 Flavour (2:23) Featuring - Funky Fresh Few , Mark Rae , Mark 1* , Mr. Scruff
2 Back To The Basics (4:01) Featuring - Low Key (4)
3 Crystal Maze (0:30)
4 Come Round Here (4:19)
5 Don't Want To Lose You (5:02) Featuring - Veba
6 All I Have (4:55) Featuring - Buffy Brox Trumpet - Josef*
7 Phonebeat (4:39)
8 Erase The Pain (4:51) Featuring - Spikey T
9 Walk Like A Man (4:31) Featuring - Lorna Harris
10 Queen Of My Dreams (4:02) Featuring - Low Key (4)
11 Crystal Meth (0:37)
12 Piano Grand (4:49)
Yes, THAT Tony D aka Harvey Wallbanger. I didn't even know this album exsisted until last year. It's aight, give it a listen



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3/22/2007

Hip Hop 101: The Nas Remixes "Where Are They Now": The West Coast Remix (Part Two)


Back at it again, with a normal ass schedule for work and some "free time", whatever that consists of. Between work and four fantasy baseball drafts in three nights, I've been lacking the time to dedicate as much time as I'd like this week. If you are a fantasy baseball geek, be sure to check out the "All-Star Blogger" league, that is being covered by Rafi at Oh Word, stop by and cheer on The Daughter in our quest for Blogger Fantasy Baseball world supremacy.

I have lots of things on my mind, but I think I'll save that for the weekend posts when I can spew my mindless dribblings all I want. For now, let's get back in to the "Where Are They Now" series....

West Remix: Breeze, Kam, King Tee, Candyman, Threat, Ice-T, Sir Mix-A-Lot and the Conscious Daughters (With scratches from DJ Bobcat)

Kam

Discography
Neva Again (EastWest Records, 1993)
Made In America (EastWest Records, 19
95)
Kamnesia (JCor, 2001)

My knowledge of Kam is fairly limited. I never got into his music for whatever reason. I've liked what I've heard from him, but never got to deep into his catalog. He came up with Ice Cube and his Lench Mob crew, appearing both on the "Boyz N The Hood" soundtrack with the incredible track "Every Single Weekend" and on Cube's "Death Certificate on the "Color Blind" posse track and was associated with Cube's "Street Knowledge" label. The fact is, with Kam around, Cube's association with the Nation of Islam in those early 90's years was taken more seriously than it might have been without Kam in the picture. It's even been noted by such hip hop notables such as Davey D, that it was Kam who kept Cube out of harms way after some backlash due to Cube's portrayal of "Dough Boy" in "Boyz...".

Kam's first album, "Neva Again" is very Afrocentric and socially conscious in nature. His NOI influence can be heard all over the album, and it covers topics from the Riots to gangs. The single, "Peace Treaty", was the attention grabber. The production was handled by a hodge podge of some well known producers, such as a DJ Pooh track, Rashad of the Boogiemen, and Solid Scheme, who was doing production for Cube at the time and some not so well known producers. Cube was also the executive producer of the album.

For Kam's second album, Ice Cube was noticeably absent from any doings of the album. Cube's Street Knowledge umbrella was in shambles amid accusations of some shady business practices on Cube's part. Kam was apart of the increasing number of people pointing fingers at Cube for mishandling business & money matters. The result was that "Made In America" lacks any involvement of Cube whatsoever. This album, in my opinion, is actually more consistent and better production is abundant through out the album, with Battlecat, Cold 187um of Above the Law fame, and DJ Quik all make contributions behind the boards on the album.

Things between Kam and Cube would come to head when one of Kam's boys would catch Cube coming out of a video shoot. A physical altercation occurred that resulted in Cube's chain being snatched. Kam would also drop "Whoop Whoop" on the DJ Pooh compilation in '97 that dissed the shit out of Cube. Later that year though, the Nation sit the two down and they would work out their differences, although they have never worked together again.

Kam is now signed to Paris' "Guerilla Funk" label and working on an album called "The Self".

Kam - Made In America (Eastwest Recordings, 1995) **albumbase link**
http://www.uploading.com/de/files/VLJYUGIS/kamamerica.zip.html
1. Intro

2. Trust Nobody
3. Pull Ya Hoe Card
4. That's My Nigga
5. Way'a Life
6. Down Fa Mine - Kam Featuring MC Ren And Dresta
7. In Traffic
8. Givin' It Up
9. Nut'N Nice
10. Who Ridin'
11. Keep Tha Peace
12. Represent

Candyman

Discography
Ain't No Shame In My Game (Epic, 1990)
Playtime Is Over (Epic, 1991)
I Thoug
ht U Knew (IRS, 1993)
Ca
ndyman's Knockin Boots 2001: A Sex Odyssey (2001)

Candyman started off as a back up dancer for Tone Loc in the late 80's. He would go on to get his own solo deal and release the cross-over hit "Ain't No Shame In My Game" in 1990. Hip Hop was crossing over something major in the early 90's, and it started with Tone Loc and Young MC, and lead to others like Candyman, who could be classified as a "one hit wonder" when his single "Knockin' The Boots" gained a lot of spin on the radio's and on MTV. In all honesty, looking back at all the cross over albums from the time period, this is the one I still enjoy from time to time in today's time period. It is what it is, which is watered down hip hop, but it was kind of fun to listen to in the same way DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince were fun to listen to.

Candy would go on to release a few more albums. His second album, "Playtime Is Over" was decent and would have a few singles, most notably "Oneighundredskytalkpinelevenotwosevenine - 1-800-SKY-TALK PIN#110279" which I'm sure has to be some kind of record for the longest song name in any genre. The rest of his discography is worth skipping.

Candyman - Ai
n't No Shame In My Game (Epic, 1990)
http://sharebee.com/ea208646
01
Ain't No Shame In My Game (Show)
02
Candyman
03
Don't Leave Home Without It
04
Knockin' Boots
05
Melt In Your Mouth
06
Playin' On Me
07
Today's Mack
08
A Mack Is Back
09
Nightgown
10
Who Shakes The Best
11
Keep On Watcha Doin'
12
5 Verses Of Def



Ice T

Discography
Rhyme Pays (Sire, 1987)
Power (Sire, 1988)

The Iceberg/Freedom Of Spee
ch (Sire, 1989)
O.G. Original Gangster (Sire, 1991)

Home Invasion (Priority, 1993)

VI - Return Of The Real (
Priority, 1996)
The Seventh Deadly Sin (Coroner, 1999)
Gangsta Rap (Melee, 2006)


Say what you want about Ice T now, but there is no denying he is one of the founding fathers of West Coast hip hop and Gangsta Rap in general. The man is a major cog in the whole West Coast history. Ice was born in Newark, New Jersey. After both of his parents passed away by the time he was in his early teens, he would move out to LA and by high school. Ice would get caught up in the gang life while attending Crenshaw High during his teen yeas. Soon after graduating High School, Ice would join the Army and become an Army Ranger and do his four year bid. By 1980, he was back in LA, and back into the shady dealings of the gang life. he would also start DJing and doing some work on the mic at house parties and clubs, one of the first in LA to do it.

Ice would team up with another prominent early L.A. MC, Kid Frost and do shows through out the early. In '82, Ice T would release "The Coldest Rap", which is also one of the first West Coast songs on wax. He would release "Killers" in '84. Both tracks would be featured in a later collection of Ice's early works, "The Classic Collection", which features "Dog n' On Wax" as well.

In the mid 80's, Southern California slowly started to build a foundation of artists. Besides Ice T, other artists with records out would include, The World Class Wreckin' Cru, The Egyptian Lover, The LA Dream Team and others. LA was doing it's own thing as far as the music seemed. The early west coast music was more Electro influenced, which can be traced back to New York. There was a club in downtown LA called "Radio" which was ran by some European's that came from New York. It was an underground club that dealt with DJ'ing, Graf, and Breaking. It would be the one place in LA that would bring in Afrika Bambaataa, Grandmixer DST, and the Rock Steady Crew.

It would be through this club that Ice would meet Afrika Islam, who at that time was the DJ for the Rock Steady Crew. Ice and Afrika Islam would keep in touch, which would lead to Ice making a trips back to NY. It was here that Ice would perform at the Latin Quarters, meeting all the important players in the NY rap game at the time. When he dropped the single "Dog n' On Wax", he would go out to NY to promote the single. It would be the B-side though, that would grab NY's attention. The joint "6 'N The Morning", which was heavily influenced by Schoolly D's "P.S.K." , was more east coast sounding that most things coming from the west at that time. It is also considered the first Gangster rap record in the west coast. It would beat out "Boyz N The Hood", which honestly sounds like another version of "6 N' The Morning" to me.

Through Islam's connections, he would get Ice a deal through Sire/Warner Brother records. With a $40,000 recording budget, Ice and Afrika Islam would spend spend $25,000 recording it in NY and then blow the rest of the budget in a whirl wind 30 day period. The end result would be Ice's debut "Rhyme Pays". The album itself contains many different styles and topics. Everything from the gang life, to sex rhymes to some political ideologies were present on the LP.
New York would also be where the Rhyme Syndicate would be born. Donald D, Bronx Style Bob, Afrika Islam, Divine Styler and others would be first to join the "Syndicate", a loosely affiliated collection of MC's and Ice's homeboys that Ice put on. Rhyme Syndicate would include future "stars" such as King Tee, WC as part of Low Profile, Everlast before his House Of Pain days, Tairre B, who was one of the first white female MC's. Donald D, who was from the Bronx, would move out west and be Ice's right hand man, even co-writing a lot of Ice's future albums.

Ice would go onto release three more consistent albums, "Power", "Iceberg/Freedom of Speech", and "OG Original Gangster". All of which could be considered "classics" in some circles, such as my own opinion and all did very well in sales with earning at least a gold plaque on all of them. All which would fall a pretty similar formula to the one before it, but if it's not broke, don't fix it. His fifth album, "Home Invasion" was the beginning of the end for me at least and for most of his retail success. No fear though, as I'm sure most everyone knows, Ice has made a name for himself in film and TV. I guess Nas didn't watch TV, because he's been on "Law & Order" for awhile now.

Sorry to cut it short, but Ice is probably one of the more popular artists, so I figured most people would know his recording career history fairly well.

Ice T - Iceberg/Freedom Of Speech....Just Watch What You Say (Sire, 1989)
http://sharebee.com/b3f356a7

1
Shut Up, Be Happy

Featuring - Jello Biafra
2
The Iceberg
3
Lethal Weapon
4
You Played Yourself
5
Peel Their Caps Back
6
The Girl Tried To Kill Me

Drums - Beat Master V
Guitar - Ernie C
7
Black 'N' Decker
8
Hit The Deck

Bass - Lloyd (2)
9
This One's For Me
10
The Hunted Child
11
What Ya Wanna Do?



12
Freedom Of Speech

Featuring - Jello Biafra
13
My Word Is Bond

Featuring - Bronx Style Bob , Donald D

Sir Mix-A-Lot

Discography
Swass (Nastymix, 1988)
Seminar (Nastymix, 1989)

Mack Daddy (American, 1992)
Chief Boot Knocka (American, 1994)

Return Bumpasaraus (American, 1996)
Daddy's Home (Reincarnate, 2003)

Sir Mix-A-Lot is a Northwest king. He would be the first from the region to gain any kind of fame. In 1985, Mix would release "Square Dance Rappin'", which is actually Kid Sensation with a sped up voice, but Mix did the production. The single would actually become big over seas first in the UK and such.

Mix would continue to make a name for himself in the Sea-Town area. He would drop "Swass" (which we almost incorparted in the name of this blog as "Don't You Wish Your Boyfriend Was Swass Like Me", some how, DYWYBWSLM doesn't ring the same bell as WYDU) in 1988, which would drop the hit single, "Posse On Broadway". I'm not sure if anyone pass the Mississippi was into this album, but it caught wreck out west and especially in the Northwest. It also would get some love on "Yo! MTV Raps" and was a major woofer tester for all my friends in High School. Mix's music was a cross between the electro sound, Miami Bass/2 Live Crew sound, and traditional late 80's West Coast/Oakland sound.

Mix's next album, "Seminar" would also be a regional favorite, and would also show the growth of Mix as an artist, with the song "National Anthem", which is still one of my favorite political based Hip Hop songs of all times. Not only are the lyrics scathing and true to life, the beat is slamming as well, with deep basslines ripping through a system. True to form though, Mix was also about having fun on this album as well, with "Hooptie" and "Beepers" as popular singles as well. Mix would also have social commentary with "Peek A Boo" which is much better on the original Nastymix version, the version found on the Def American re release pretty much sucks.

The spring of '92. I had just finished my first semester of college, barely making it through without flunking out. I was having fun, partying a lot and not working a lot. I still had money to buy all the CD's/Tapes I wanted and a little black Volkswagen Jetta that had two 12 inch woofers in a box in the trunk and a Fosgate Punch 150 pushing them. Needless to say, my shit bumped. That spring, Mix's first single from his new album "Mack Daddy" dropped. It was "One Time's Got No Case". It was good, nothing wrong with it all. It was what you expected basically when you heard a Mix-a-Lot song. Later that spring, the album would drop. Now, I'm not going to blow smoke up your asses saying this album changed our life, but right off the bat, we knew it would be getting most of our play that summer. Right off the bat, the song "Baby Got Back" caught our attention. We thought it was great. In a couple weeks, the whole nation would think the same thing. It would be Mix's big break. The album would sell close to double platinum and the single was everywhere, even after MTV banned it to a late not time slot.

Mix-A-Lot would never match the success again. His next album, "Chief Boot Knocka" would feature the sequel to "Baby Got Back" with "Put 'Em On The Glass", which instead of being about asses, it was about titties, yeah, even Mix himself said later in interviews it was a mistake. The single "Ride" got some play out here, but it wasn't the same in my book. It's not that it was a bad album, but since it dropped in '94, there was some stiff competition out there and it wasn't on the same playing field. "Return Of The Bumpasaraus" was the next release in '97, which I've never heard. He would retire after that album, but would work with the rock/indie group "Dead Presidents" on an album, but I don't think that ever saw the light of day. In 2003, he would "unretire" and drop "Daddy's Home", which, again, I've never heard, or barely heard of, so I can't speak much on that.

Sir Mix-a-Lot - Seminar (Nastymix, 1989) **this is the American Recordings Re Release***
http://sharebee.com/051b2ea5
1. Sleepin' Wit My Fonk
2. Let It Beaounce
3. Ride
4. Take My Stash
5. Brown Shuga
6. What's Real
7. Double da Pleasure
8. Put 'Em on the Glass
9. Chief Boot Knocka
10. Don't Call Me da Da
11. Nasty Dogs and Funky Kings
12. Monsta Mack
13. Just da Pimpin' in Me
14. I Check My Bank

Conscious Daughters

Discography
Ear To The Street (Priority, 1993)
Gamers (Priority, 1996)


This should be interesting....

Consisting of CMG & Special One, the female Bay Area duo released their debut album "Ear To The Street", in 1993. Consisting of the traditional Bay Area sound, with a touch of street sound along with the militant views of Paris, who signed them, the two spit some strong lyrics for female MC's. The album did do fairly well, selling 300,000 copies and the strength of the single "Somethin' Fonky (To Ride To)".

The sophomore album "Gamers" dropped, while it sold 200,000, it wasn't up on par with the debut. They are signed to Paris' Guerrilla Funk label and are working on their 3rd album "The Nut Cracker Suite".

Conscious Daughters - Ear To The Street (Priority, 1993) **albumbase link**
http://www.uploading.com/de/?get=XVUSX3LI

1. Princess of Poetry
2. Shity Situation
3. TCD in da Front
4. Somethin' to Ride To (Fonky Expedition)
5. We Roll Deep
6. Showdown
7. Wife of a Gangsta
8. Dex Dog
9. Crazybitchmadness
10. Mac Flow
11. What's a Girl to Do?

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