I doubt many of you were were around for the first installment of our "It's So Corny...It's Good" series waaaaay back in April of this year on Kwame, who incidentely was posted on Bust The Facts just today. I caught a little heat for that...okay when you get 50 hits a day and two people leave comments not too pleased about it, that's heat in my book.It's not that I don't like these artists, or am embarrassed to be listening to them, I mean hell, I am posting them on a blog for gawd's sakes, but if you were around during the time they were popular....well....you could catch some heat for it. Now I'm not talking Hammer (who's first album I will admit to liking) or Vanilla Ice, who is never going be the "thug's passion", but artists, who for whatever reason, were really never "street" enough for the hard rocks back in the day.
This is what I wrote way back on that April day about the whole subject and I still stand by my observation of the artists that will be covered in this series:
"Have you ever heard a song that first time you heard it, it sounded corny as shit, but there is just something about it........something that makes you want to sing along with it. You know you shouldn't like it, you shouln't play it, but sooner or later you find yourself sneaking around your boys, playing a certain song, or a CD that you know you would get clowned on if anyone ever found out. Hip hop is very into peer pressure. In a sense, there are too many sheep and not enough wolves. If something is corny, at least in the "old days", it usually was talking about things not typically found in hip hop. Stuff like Kid N Play, or DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince. The subject matter wasn't about how "hard on the boulevard" you are, or bustin' yo gat. It was about other things that fell into the realm of "corniness". If just given a chance, it wasn't all that bad. Some of the music was actually pretty good. I'm not saying all corny music can be good. There is alot of corny music out there that is horrible no matter how you look at it. But there is some that people look down on for one reason or another. It's this music that I'm going to kind of spotlight from time to time. There were alot of artists fro
m the late 80's to the mid 90's that fell into that "corny" category. You have been "trained" that you probably shouldn't like it, but dammit, some of it isn't all that bad. True, some people will see some of the music I'm going to highlite and laugh their asses off. I don't care, I'm comfortable enough to say "hey, I like this!" Some of it, yes, I did hide from my friends back in the day. Some of it has been forgotten, some of it still wears the "corny badge" to this day. Well, I'm bringing the fiber with some healthy corny choices." Alright, so maybe it wasn't written as well I would have liked, but none the less you get the idea. The next artist on the "Corny" list is Dave Guppy aka Redhead Kingpin.
First appearing with his F.B.I crew back in the late 80's, Red jumped on the scene as a "Yo! MTV Raps" darling, with his "Do The Right Thing" jam, a track that should have been on Spikes flick by the same name, but rumoredly was passed up in favor of P.E.'s "Fight The Power" for movie the anthem.Red's main claim to corniness isn't neccesarily his lyrics, but the style and music on his album that was the fad at the time, the New Jack Swing. The Teddy Riley inspired (and in the case of Red's first album, produced) jams packed the dance floors, but those of us listening to LL, Big Daddy, or NWA would cringe when the beats of NJS hit the airwaves.
He dropped his debut album with his F.B.I crew in 1989 which garned three "Semi" hits in "Do The Right Thing", "Pump It Hottie" and "Roc The Mic Right". The rest of the album is actually pretty tight, "Superbad Superslick" was one of my favorites as well. This album alone didn't cement him in the corniness Hall of Fame though, but his next one did.
Redhead Kingpen & The F.B.I. - A Shade of Red (Atlantic, 1989)http://d.turboupload.com/d/573878/WC_A_Shade_Of_Red.rar.html
1. Do the Right Thing (USA)
2. Pump It Hottie
3. We Rock the Mic Right

4. Superbad, Superslick
5. Redhead One6. Scram!
7. Kilimanjaro Style
8. Do That Dance
9. Speaking on Everything
10. Shade of Red
"The Album With No Name" dropped in 91' when times were a changing in the Hip Hop world. This, along with the fact there was no "King" of the New Jack Swing to produce the album, left the album sounding some what out of place in the world of hip hop. It was in between the time when you were either Afrocentric, playing for the Radio glam, or jumping on the growing Gangsta bandwagon. This album has a little bit of everything and some very corny sounding moments....which is what appeals to me so much. Jams like "3-2-1 Pump", "The Song With No Name", and the message driven "We Don't Have No Plan B" didn't have the groovy NJS that the last album had, but had just enough to get your ass moving and singing along when no one was looking. It did have it's VERY BAD moments, like "Get It Together" or "It's A Love Thang". Both were examples of R&B sung chorus over "uplifting" messages. The only thing uplifting up these songs were the uplifting of my lunch in my stomach after listening to these songs. The highlite of corniness though is the last song of the album with Kwame guest appearing. I love this song, it has some great lines in it, but it is the epitimy of corniness....

Redhead Kingpin & The F.B.I - The Album With No Name (Virgin, 1991) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X9HH5UT0
1. All About Red - Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I.
2. Soap - Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I.
3. What Do You Hate - Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I.
4. Harlem Brown - Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I.
5. It's a Love Thang (Word) - Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I.
6. No Reason - Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I.
7. We Don't Have a Plan B - Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I.
8. Nice & Slow - Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I.
9. Song With No Name - Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I., Tony Rome
10. Interlude - Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I., Tony Rome
11. 3-2-1 Pump - Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I., Tony Rome
12. Wild Style Collage - Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I., Tony Rome
13. Get It Together - Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I., Tony Rome
14. Got 2 Go - Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I., Tony Rome
15. Dave & Kwame (Gimme Dat Girl) - Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I., Tony Rome
The New Jack Swing was no longer "cool" soon after the new wave of hip hop kicked in and Red kind of slipped off the map. He would reappear in a group of sorts the Private Investigators and the LP "Re Act Like Ya Knew". Gone was his sense of humor, the new jack swing and honestly any creative music. Yeah, I'm not fond of this album. I waited a long time to get it, because I heard rumors it's Red's attempt at fitting in during the time, and they were right, he didn't adjust very well, but some of you might find it entertaining....Okay, it's not that bad, but it just lacks what made him appealing in the first place to me. "Mash Up The Mic" was the only single and wasn't all that bad.
Private Investigators - React Like Ya Knew (Virgin, 1993)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MHBO0M4O

1. That's What It Is
2. Who Am I? (God)
3. But She's Not My G
4. Damn It Feels Good
5. Mash Up the Mic
6. Walk On
7. U Fi Listen
8. Shy Country Girl
9. On the Rise
10. Mom Dukes
11. Silencer
12. Stuff Ya' Love to Bang Ya' Head To
Videos: (One of These days I'll figure out how to embed fucking youtube in blogger)
Do The Right Thing
Pump It Hottie
Few Tidbits......
Someone sent me these song lyrics, hopefully someone can help him out with it. It sounds familar to me, but I'm bad at stuff like this sometimes. He is looking for the song title.....
the hook went> >> > "i give it to ya raw like that (2x)> >> > word to everything i got too hot...playa watch im coming for tha jackpot"> >> >
From around 97 or so .....yeah, I know, not much to work with, but some of you vinyl junkies might have a clue.
Jaz Presents: The Adagio Collection tracklisting...
Finally tracked it down....
1-20 cents
2-poetry to infinity
3-the obvious joint
4-everybody
5-the_meaning_ft._wisdom
6-who is adagio
7-listening pleasure_ft_breezly_brewin
8-ass and benefits
9-boy & girl tale
10-upperhand
11-the obvious_joint_ii
12-all_star_jam_ft_wisdom_ft_adaigio_and_the_juggaknots
13_who makes it hot ft the_ juggaknots
14-my_girl
Speaking of corniness.............
I was going through my private message on mastaace.com (yeah, I'm a true internet geek...POTNA!) and I ran across a message that Polarity and I were discussing a name for this blog. Thank god Polarity was smart enough to shoot down some of my suggestions. I must have been on a two day crack binge or something, but here were some suggestions...
"Don't You Wish Your Boyfriend Was Swass Like me"
Walk With A Kane
Kangol Hats and Shell Toes
Godzilla Meets MP3
Hungwench
LongWang
Fuzzy Gerbiels And 8 Tracks
Golden Age to the Aluminium Age
Raiders Of the Lost Tracks
The Juice Unit Syndicate (or any play on crew names)
A Mile High Down Under
Wake Your Daughter Up
Beats, Rhymes and Death
as you can see Wake Your Daughter Up won out. It's not that we are trying to be sick demented pervs...okay, maybe we are, but we thought it was a nice play on words since No Face's album was the kind of stuff we wanted to highlite. No, not corny half bass/ half sex albums, just the more obscured stuff out there. For what it was worth, "Don't You Wish Your Boyfriend Was Swass Like Me" was actually the first pick, but the lengthiness kind of shot that down. Not that "Wake Your Daughter Up" is much shorter.
That's all, peace out.......Travis











21 comments:
Many thanks for that Adagio! tracklisting bro! Much appreciated. To add:
*15 Hold Tight
*16 Listening Pleasure (Remix)
Peace
Cool, I thought I had added a couple tracks to that collection myself and those would be the ones. I was racking me head over the added tracks this afternoon.
Travis, you must be the only blogger out there who can write that much about Redhead King Pin, I have to say i'm not a fan of his or his F.B.I. I can't believe I just learned that much about someone I never wanted to know anything about. Thank you Spike for opting with 'Fight The Power' haha
I like the Mix-A-Lot name.
PEACE and don't forget to get back to me on that other biz.
Haha, and that's word to my copy of "A Shade of Red" signed by Red & the whole FBI! I'm with you T, Kingpin is corny & dope all at once haha...
i bought that 1991 redhead album.
he had a joint or 2 in the clubs,
so i was interested..
man, i tried to like it,
but it didn't happen.
if i listened to that thing 5 times
in the past 15 years, that's plenty!
i NEVER liked the coming of teddy riley
and that whole new jack swing thing.
back then, i viewed it as rappers
crossing over (trying) or selling out.
big daddy kane became wack,
as did heavy d.. who else?
oh, run-dmc tried it, no? PAUSE!!
lol i hated those typa songs.
i wasn't around on the kwame post,
but i loved me some kwame.
he wrote stuff for salt n pepa,
and hurby luv bug and that camp.
thankfully, he's still around
doing production for g-unit, meth,
mjb, christina, talib, tweet, etc..
hehe yeah right me and polarity will have to send you some empty discs with a return stamp or something ;) thanks for the adagio tracklist by the way, good shit
Travis wot a great post i must say...
i think was dope da all NJS Movement can't speak 4 everybody of course but i'm not ashamed 2 admit yes i did like it back in da days!!!
there's so many wannabe's gangsta rappers nowadays dat is just ''dummies'',at least back in those days u were not afraid 2 express yrself either by great lyrics,dancin,groovin' even if u were 2 make a fool of yourself,crossover or just a quick'' Buck'' no wot i mean?
Teddy Riley produce kool moe dee's first songs or album if i'm not mistake '87?
well it's yr choice basically,but at least we were not killing people,brothers & acting all dummie
gangsta tuff & where was all da HOTTIES Hangin' ??? yep yep NJS4Ever
Check out some dope ones @ my site....peace!
I must admit, I enjoy corny ass Redhead Kingpin, and I LOVE corny Kwame! Kwame just has such a unique style, I had to appreciate his shit.
I do enjoy your write ups like this though.
Forgot to mention that I have always liked Teddy Riley, and most of the New Jack Swing shit. Guy, Blackstreet, Wrecks N Effect, Troop, etc.... All Classic shit in my opinion.
Didnt like some of the rap artists changing their styles too much and trying the New Jack Swing and other stuff though.
I was a big Kwame fan, always have been. I played the shit out of A Day In The Life back in the day.
With Red, I liked the first album alot...the second was aight, still never got into that third.
I didn't mind wreck N Effect, but I couldn't stand Big Daddy Kane's stuff...bleah....Never big on R&B but Big Bub was cool, although I don't know if Teddy had anything to do on that
Nah, Travis. The Private Investigators album was a classic with several bangers on it. I still bump that joint to this day. He became a member of the Nation Of Gods and Earths (5 Percenters) and changed his name from David Guppy to Dawud Nurrid-Diyn (literally Redheaded king/ruler). The songs "Shy Country Girl", "On The Rise", were among the standouts...he had a 2nd single off of that album, the banger "Who Am I? (God)" featuring Invisible Men aka Inviseez (Haagen Dazs).
I can't believe you didn't mention my other joint off of "The Album With No Name"..."Harlem Brown". Red redeemed himself with the "It's A Love Thing" remix and video. That joint was a banger as well. I take it there's Kwame update coming soon, huh?
One.
I did really like "Who Am I", but that album never felt like a Redhead album I guess.
"Harlem Brown" was a great song as well, it was a favorite of mine off that album. I saw I forgot mentioning it after I wrote it up.
I did a Kwame write up waaaaay back when, then Bust The Facts just posted up his whole discography, so I think I'll leave it alone. I got a couple more artists in mind though
I can't lie....we played the hell out of Kwame back in high school. I have all his cass./CDz and throw em in every now and again. It's always nice to see em out there gettin posted. Thanks for all the music "corny" or not!
Steady B What's my Name? The Only Steady B I don;t got, old school philly flavor
Steady B What's my Name? The Only Steady B I don;t got, old school philly flavor
yoooo .
are uu callinq my father cornyyy ?!?
my geee , uhm uur on a website blogging about other ppls succesful rap careers sooo that pretty much suqqest that ur not soooo cool ur selff ! anywayyyyy life goes on, even for the haters.
---Zaire Guppy
^^^ touche....
But if you read what I wrote;
It's not that I don't like these artists, or am embarrassed to be listening to them, I mean hell, I am posting them on a blog for gawd's sakes, but if you were around during the time they were popular....well....you could catch some heat for it. Now I'm not talking Hammer (who's first album I will admit to liking) or Vanilla Ice, who is never going be the "thug's passion", but artists, who for whatever reason, were really never "street" enough for the hard rocks back in the day.
you will notice I personally wasn't calling Redhead "corny", in fact I was big fan of his music and still am. It's just some less open minded people didn't respect his hustle as much as they should have. It happens, you can't please everyone. I'm just pointing out artists such as Kwame and Redhead Kingpin shouldn't be ignored simply for the false pretense some people might have put on those artists. That's all.
Further elaboration is greatly appreciated .
You sure did have a hell of a lot written about him. Happy to know his life, even now, interests you that much.
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He provided me with hours, even days, of dope music that will forever be apart of my life (I can remember standing at the bus stop freezing my ass off, pumping "A Shade of Red" in my walkman, tape player even). And their are many "geeks" like me that still celebrate his music and the impact it might have had on us.
I created the Wikipedia page for Redhead Kingpin and the F.B.I.
It would be great if Zaire or anyone else could look at it and updated with the latest or add more info that's missing.
It's important that key late 80's and early 90's rappers are not forgotten!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redhead_Kingpin_and_the_F.B.I.
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